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Dear Mr. Zagami:
Thank you for the opportunity to set the
record straight regarding your editorial in the
current edition of RV News titled "Just How
Important are Buyer's Guide Leads?" and the
mention of Western RV. In the editorial you
mention the gesture that you will "...gladly print
a clarification or explanation..." if the information
you have collected is in any way inaccurate.
Please allow me to provide an explanation as to
why you did not receive any information from
Western RV.
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Upon receiving a copy of your editorial, I
immediately set to work to find how your contact
information had been misplaced or was possibly
not received. Upon contacting the Affinity
Group, what I found was that we had not, in
fact, received your request and contact information
from them. Unfortunately, due to the
reverse DNS configuration with their e-mail server,
we had not received your request as it was
not recognized and accepted by our e-mail server as
part of our internal computer network protection.
We had recently opted to receive Buyer's
Guide leads from them by e-mail to streamline
our internal fulfillment process, only to learn of
this problem through your editorial. For that we
thank you, otherwise this problem may not have
been recognized so quickly.
Let me assure you that establishing and
maintaining customer touch points is a priority
with Western RV. Our products are positioned in
the marketplace where customer interaction and
the dissemination of information is critical to
move our consumer to a buying decision and
establishing the groundwork for a satisfying
experience with their new Alpenlite or Alpine
Coach recreational vehicle. Further evidence of
our commitment to the market expansion program
enacted by the GoRVing Coalition, is the
service of Mr. Ron Doyle, President and CEO of
Western RV. Mr. Doyle is a member of the
GoRVing Committee on Excellence, RVIA Public
Relations Committee and is a member of the
RVIA Board of Directors.
Mr. Zagami, thank you for your informative
and enlightening editorial. We are both in agreement
that more needs to be done, both at the
manufacturer and dealer level, to seize every
opportunity presented to us to convince a qualified
and willing buyer of the enormous benefits
of the RV lifestyle.
By the way, now that we have received your
contact information, please check your mailbox
for the information requested regarding Alpine
Coach.
Best Regards,
Western Recreational Vehicles, Inc.
Burk Morgan
Vice President, Marketing
Don,
I read your article about R-Vision and Denny
Bailey and agree with you wholeheartedly.
It's quite pathetic for a company like R-Vision
when their dealers (specifically
rvwholesalers.com) have better websites (complete
with full pictures and 360 degree pan,
specifications, etc) than the manufacturer does.
I thought the purpose of a website was to promote
your product to the masses.
I personally used the above mentioned website
to custom design my Travel Trailer and then
proceeded to a local dealer (with the price quote
obtained online) to negotiate a price. I managed
to get a price within $500 of the online price.
As far as I am concerned, the RV industry
should be no different than the auto industry
with factory prices available and negotiation
allowed with the dealer. I like to support my
local dealer if possible, but if they want to
charge me close to list price just for the sake of
the almighty buck, then I will go where I can get
a good price. If the manufacturer wants to curtail
the publication of prices online, just like
some Consumer Electronic companies do, then
these sites will have to just change slightly by
emailing the lower price to a customer vs. publishing
it online. This is how the CE retailers
have gotten around the relationships with the
vendors.
I just wanted to give you some feedback.
Regards,
Paul
Dear Bob:
I enjoyed very much reading your recent article
in RV News.
It's a sad truth at how poorly so many dealerships
handle their business's - and yet are
successful in spite of themselves. I have now
worked for two major RV dealerships here in the
Southwest. Both very successful, yet both failing
to understand the "what if" aspect of the opportunities
presented them. I worked in corporate
training and development throughout the eighties
and was fortunate to have seen major business's
that did "dot all the i's and cross all the
t's" (unfortunately the company I was associated
with got gobbled up and I chose another industry).
How do you convince an Owner or General
Manager there might "be a better
way" when they've been successful
doing business as they
(despite the missed opportunities)
have. I've tried to give some
educated input but it seems to
fall on deaf ears, and since I'm
making great money just selling,
I don't pursue the issue. I
personally think it's an "inbreeding" problem. By that I
mean a General Manager only
knows what he's learned from
his boss, so forth and so on
(unless they're enlightened
enough to get outside training
and education - which most
aren't). Again, I enjoyed your
article tremendously and look
forward to others.
Price Shearn
Arizona
Hi Bob,
I just got my issue of RV
News, and read your whole article
on the new rating system of
TL and Good Sam. My husband
and I own a small campground
in Madison, VA. It has 70 sites,
and 3 cabins. We WERE a
Good Sam park, but dropped
out for the 2003 edition, mostly
because of the Rep that comes
to our park. I did as you asked
in your article, I wrote to Good
Sam/TL, in 2001, July 6th to be
exact. It was a 5 page letter
expressing our dissatisfaction
with their Rep (Marketing
Consultant), and with all the
backup facts of what we did to
get at least the same rating as
the previous year. We are 2
people, who, as you stated, own,
operate, manage, clean, fix,
repair and are here 24/7 to
serve the public. (We do have a
Security Gate!) We also made
note of the Rep's inconsistencies
in his rating system with an
example, and copy. We also
explained how the Rep was very
anxious to leave after filling out
the ad form without taking any
money. BUT I reminded him,
that I get a discount if he would
just wait a minute for me to
write out the check. He said,
OK, but it's only $100.00.
Obviously that isn't much
money to him, but it's a lot to
us. Their ad rates are extremely
high and we just couldn't continue
to empty our pockets for
them to prosper. One final note
to them was their rating system.
We had felt then and do now
that they cater to the large
parks who have lots of employees,
and the small owner who
does it all will never be able to
get the same ranking. I sent
the letter certified/return
receipt and it was signed on
July 12th. Not only did I NOT
get an answer but no acknowledgement
came either. Nothing!
My next move was to contact
the Affinity Group which
responded with a name and
address to write to. I did! I sent
it May 13, 2002. (I) addressed
some of the concerns but most
importantly that we never heard
from TL/Good Sam. I did get
an email from Affinity that they
received the letter, but they also
never got a response from
TL/Good Sam concerning my
original letter. Why would anyone
want to do business with a
money hungry organization like
TL/Good Sam? Someone should
start a survey of dissatisfied
campground owners. I think
you would be amazed. Many of
us in VA are no longer Good
Sam Parks.
Just wanted you to know
our experience. We are also
doing quite well at spreading
the word that there are many
many good campgrounds not
listed with TL/Good Sam and
that they can get info.
Thank you for your time,
Sandi Aldrich
Shenandoah Hills Campground
Dear Mr. Zagami,
Right On! Your article on
Good Sam - Good for Who? was
100% accurate. Thanks for
speaking what many of us are
thinking. We are not a G.S.
Park and now I am sure will
never be. I just had to zip off
RV NEWS October 2003 11
this note to say keep up the
good work telling it like it is.
Sincerely,
Fred Vanderwonde
Bridgeview RV Park
Breckenridge, Texas
Dear Bob:
It was a pleasure speaking
to you yesterday regarding your
article, Manufactured
Confusion. It brought back
memories from the 1960's when
all the new cars were delivered
to the dealers with covers, so
that the public could not see
them until the Announcement
Day. It was not uncommon to
sell over 150 new cars the first
three days with people lined up
to see them.
It would certainly be nice for
the RV Manufacturers to get
together for an "Announcement
Day" in early September, after
Labor Day and advertise accordingly.
This is something we continually
talk about, but never pursue.
I believe it would help the
RV Manufacturers get more
business from dealers in the
late spring to early summer
months, without worrying about
the new models coming out the
next week or month and having
old product in stock.
The Great Lakes
Recreational Vehicle Association
(GLRVA) announced in March
2003, that starting with our
January 2004 Supershow,
which is held January 7-11,
2004, we will then only allow
2004 products in that show.
We will continue this rule for all
future shows. It is my understanding
that the Tampa show
has announced the same, and I
am hopeful there will be many
others following our lead.
I am convinced that if the
Manufacturers and Dealers
could work together we could
make it more profitable for
both, with a lot less confusion
to our retail customers.
We are very proud of the fact
that the Ohio RV Supershow is
one of the largest retail shows
in the country and we work very
hard to keep its integrity.
If you have any questions on
my comments, or the RV
Industry in general, please feel
free to contact me at (216) 970-
7500.
Sincerely,
Bruce M. Wolfson
Executive Director - GLRVA
Hi Bob,
I received your current issue
this morning and just finished
reading it from cover to cover
and enjoyed every page - except
for the shipment stats on page
26.
Dave Newhouse
Editor in Chief
Pop Up Times Magazine
Bob,
Just read your write up on
Media Camping Center, you did
a real nice job on it. I think you
really hit home on what our
dealership is all about. Hadden
is receiving a dozen calls a day
from other RV business people
telling him the article really
does tell it like it is! Great job!
Hadden sure is the King of Hot
Dogs. He is always looking for a
different way to do something.
Thanks Again,
Ted McKay, Sales Manager
Media Camping Center